tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post71201465300421386..comments2023-11-16T10:44:22.206+00:00Comments on The Mind of a Helmet Camera Cyclist: War on Britain's Roads?magnatomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14920774671676488322noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-77144528539073488982012-12-10T11:25:56.590+00:002012-12-10T11:25:56.590+00:00Is there any chance that someone could copy the pr...Is there any chance that someone could copy the program and make it available somewhere online? I tried to watch from the BBC website but typical beeb only allow you to view if you are in the UK. The same conditions apply to cyclists in Australia (sometime we have it ever worse) so would be interesting to watch the show.Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-52221833540292274152012-12-05T12:51:34.689+00:002012-12-05T12:51:34.689+00:00There will be no debate after this film, there wil...There will be no debate after this film, there will be more hatred. Motorists will continue seeing people jump the lights or riding on the pavement, and contrast this with the fuss the "cycling lobby" have made over a documentary they see as showing the truth and the gap will widen.<br /><br />Magnatom, please please, next time, leave the professionals to engage with the Media. <br /><br />Its too late for this documentary i'm afraid. Your videos and opinions have been used to further the lazy stereotypical view of cyclists behaviour and create precisely the opposite view you were trying to put across.<br /><br />I understand you are well intentioned, but you are coming across as self-righteous and confrontational, exactly the sort of cyclist people love to hate.<br /><br />Posting in bus and lorry forums is only going to worsen this view.<br /><br />You can not correct the entrenched views of the entire driving population one person at a time like this. <br /><br />YOU ARE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-39503545838290293102012-12-05T08:30:53.081+00:002012-12-05T08:30:53.081+00:00Well it is a "war" in the same sense tha...Well it is a "war" in the same sense that there's a "war" between Israel and Gaza. The couriers being the equivalent of Hamas, the few rebels who, while their rebellion sometimes makes their own side take heart, become a convenient propaganda stick for the other side to justify more repression. Which I suspect is precisely what's happening in this piece of trash video making. The commenters critical of the BBC have it spot on. The undeserved trust placed in the deeply reactionary state TV in the UK is actually another serious problem quite different from cycling. All the BBC's prime-time output is tabloid level rubbish, which shows no real attempt at providing balance or insight, and could have come from any commercial broadcaster. The only reason the BBC is still funded through a tax is because the massive BBC bureaucracy is so adept protecting its own interests, <br /><br />This affair will tell us nothing about UK cycling politics and everything about the direction of the modern media, namely, that if you want to form an opinion, you're far better off going to youtube and blogs like this one than vegetating on the couch after the "One Show". The conclusion that politicians and opinion formers are the ones to be persuaded in cycling campaign matters, and not the driving public is totally right. Ultimately politicians must, on some level, be concerned with rational policy, and cycling - when you strip away all the politics of it - provides a cheap way for people to get to work - something that matters to the capitalist class. The opinions of this class influence the majority of drivers who, by their nature, tend to have decent jobs and money to afford their cars. aux88https://www.blogger.com/profile/14958271248683290407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-1099557179730806592012-12-04T23:30:15.999+00:002012-12-04T23:30:15.999+00:00You got involved with the BBC. If you lie with dog...You got involved with the BBC. If you lie with dogs you will get fleas. There's not point complaining, it's the nature of the beast.<br /><br />A look at the news output from BBC Scotland would tell you all you need to know about their values, murder, football, cute animals, more football.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-1964003109155321822012-12-04T22:58:16.099+00:002012-12-04T22:58:16.099+00:00I agree with everything but your conclusion. The p...I agree with everything but your conclusion. The politicians and public servants can't radically overhall the transport infrastructure if the public they serve is still wedded to the car. Political will needs to be part of the solution, but the other part is the public dependence. How to get people to view their car as a tool and not the tool, is the big question. <br /><br />On the war front, cyclists would have to be mad to engage in war. Metal roll bars and air bags vs a bit of polysyrene and some fingerless gloves. I can't recall any crashes were the car driver came off worse...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-41262896812064040572012-12-04T20:32:19.361+00:002012-12-04T20:32:19.361+00:00You provide the pictures, they'll provide the ...You provide the pictures, they'll provide the war.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06539521837576185257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-7385121420712956112012-12-04T17:40:54.540+00:002012-12-04T17:40:54.540+00:00Sadly, it seems to be a rule in life to avoid gett...Sadly, it seems to be a rule in life to avoid getting involved with the media, especially journalists. Even when they make an honest effort they often present the wrong end of the stick and mostly they just want to stir up some confrontation.<br /><br />"A bit of a problem here but with good sense on all sides we can sort it out" just doesn't make good TV, or news.<br /><br />best wishes from cynical Sheffield<br />Chris RustChris Rusthttp://sevenleagueboots.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-8708908607373568832012-12-04T13:43:17.401+00:002012-12-04T13:43:17.401+00:00Are you not able to withdraw your consent for them...Are you not able to withdraw your consent for them to use your footage? In light of them producing a different program to the one they told contributors they were to produce.Dom Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18371052989966502172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-50246266516554067322012-12-04T12:11:45.645+00:002012-12-04T12:11:45.645+00:00Crap title suggests one thing - crap programme.Crap title suggests one thing - crap programme.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-43025217667374801582012-12-03T19:08:40.431+00:002012-12-03T19:08:40.431+00:00After having read a bit I am quite intrigued by th...After having read a bit I am quite intrigued by the controversy shaping up around this, although I live in Santiago, Chile, and probably won't see either the trailer or the film unless it makes it onto some online presence. Regarding the concept of 'war', I have to say I don't completely agree that it is a one-sided conflict where the urban planners are the sole persons at fault. As an avid bicyclist and daily bicycle commuter, I would have to say that all of the constituents involved are part of the problem, and can be part of the solution. Of course, as a cyclist, my more emotional rage is directed at those "terrible" drivers -- especially when they do outrageously dangerous things, or of course go on the attack against me or some other cyclist. But I am also quite unhappy with those who are "terrible" cyclists, and (contrary to my general solidarity and biases in favor of cyclists) I believe that increased regulation on behaviour of bicyclists must also be part of any real solution -- there are just too many cyclists out there who behave as though there are no rules for cyclists, and this is wrong and dangerous. Finally, a few comments on the urban planners -- yes, they are and have been a huge part of the problem, backed up and pushed by money and power of the auto industry, of course. Here in Chile I believe the urban situation for bikers is worse than most places in Western Europe, and recently there was even a law from a right-wing political party (the UDI) that would have made bicycling on the streets illegal (they wanted us to use only the sidewalks, or the ridiculously few recreational bike paths that have been built). Yes, its true; believe it. <br /><br />In sum, I honestly think any solution must involve various strategies for all of the constituents in this equation: massive re-design of our urban environments and education to go along with this; increased economic costs for using cars - including somehow pricing in contamination they produce; broad-based education initiatives mixed with increased policing and regulation of bicyclists - i.e. requiring helmets, issuing fines for running red lights and other egregious practices; and finally, greater legal action against dangerous and reckless drivers, resulting logically from increased video-monitoring and recorded experiences of our crusading "Helmet Camera Cyclists". I believe things will change - including here in Santiago. The positive wave of bicycling as the best form of transportation is unstoppable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-49176587401747414802012-11-30T15:35:28.065+00:002012-11-30T15:35:28.065+00:00As I understood it this documentary was always goi...As I understood it this documentary was always going to be divisive since polarity is the lifeblood of television. Conflict, drama & emotion are the tools to sell a story. <br /><br />It would be surprising if this documentary took into account the abysmal infrastructure available to UK cyclists and looked closely at the issue. Best we can hope for is a cursory mention.<br /><br />Nevertheless we need to steer the story past the sensationalism of war and onto the subject of better road and junction design for all road users.Evo Lucashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11617969589981392853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-28107152220594832332012-11-29T19:32:29.026+00:002012-11-29T19:32:29.026+00:0099% of the time it's only a war of words. Stic...99% of the time it's only a war of words. Sticks and stones etc..<br />Cyclist, Car driver and motorcyclist I get it from all sides. @SpanishPirate1@SpanishPirate1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3805138158441245701.post-91639287593468880322012-11-28T21:52:16.527+00:002012-11-28T21:52:16.527+00:00Couldn't agree more re 'War on Britains ro...Couldn't agree more re 'War on Britains roads', when I saw this title and the trailer thought exactly the same hijacked by the media, production company probably needed to sell it to the beeb, just doesn't help the situation.Jwisaianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841905657727300098noreply@blogger.com